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# w! H8 ?0 H2 w0 J2 | mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">孝，如今还在于与父母交心、沟通，体谅父母的难处，分担父母的责任。" R( U# ~; X& H mso-font-kerning:0pt">——: k' x2 `- f6 m( T* h$ m) Zfont-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">对，这是从情感上关心父母，是尽孝的重要内容。生，事之以礼。死，葬之以礼，祭之以礼。' f U( i: V0 }0 O- P3 c9 e mso-font-kerning:0pt">——, A- m& G" k! @ font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; : \7 l) Q. |: smso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">对父母的孝道，是义。如何尽孝，是礼。如何行礼，就是生而不违，去世行丧礼，祭祀行祭礼。《孝经》说：% Z! [0 F7 ?6 G1 s* l& s. d mso-font-kerning:0pt">“2 X1 m( G' v$ @# b% S( Afont-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">礼者，敬而已矣。故敬其父，则子悦；敬其兄，则弟悦；敬其君，则臣悦；敬一人，而千万人悦。所敬者寡，而悦者众，此之谓要道也。, j4 `, Z& b' W0 O mso-font-kerning:0pt">”1 n1 \' F2 O7 o5 Q8 f; T font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">礼的内在依据是孝悌，而外在表现，就是一个6 D: g |+ F6 M( J) C+ k mso-font-kerning:0pt">“ L" ~! e7 m( L5 \6 ?6 \ font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; : T' J _2 L7 [7 Tmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">敬. l2 d; w5 a! w& ]mso-font-kerning:0pt">”- q4 ~$ B8 W" H+ F, }0 X9 vfont-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">字。所以，如能尊敬他的父亲，那么其儿子就会喜悦；如能尊敬他的兄长，那么其弟弟就会喜悦；如能尊敬他的国君，那么其臣下就会喜悦。尊敬的是一个人，却能使千万人喜悦。所敬者虽然只是少数，而喜悦的人却有千千万万，这就是为什么把推行孝悌之道和礼乐教化称为& o7 u+ \3 H4 Imso-font-kerning:0pt">“: T0 S/ ^$ A" q; @- n3 r2 R9 n3 [font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; 3 r- ]& {/ |/ x5 i0 u9 ~- Wmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">要道& K. E l- V* X' @) ^ mso-font-kerning:0pt">”- x! r# W. E! F$ X( C4 b* P5 j font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">的意义所在啊。0 H3 j( a$ k- j" @ mso-font-kerning:0pt">

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现在用法律手段规定子女要常回家看看，但是由于时间、金钱等各方面的原因，又有多少人是想回而不能回的呢，这个道德层面的问题上升到法律层面到底有什么意义，始终不大明白

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我这里显示也是一堆乱码，怎么回事

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贾老师讲的不错，学习了，谢谢

我这里显示的是一堆乱码！！

不错，学习了，佩服佩服